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Ridikzappa 10:39 Sat Oct 22
Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
They are deliberately importing as many people as they can from troubled backgrounds from all over the world, who they will know will contribute nothing to Britain, who they know will never want to integrate to the British way of life.

This mass of people will crash the 'system'.

There is insufficient housing, insufficient jobs, insufficient infrastructure to cope and it can never be made to work.

When the money runs out, and it will,  the system will fail and civil society will fall apart and Britain will be transformed overnight into a failed state of crime, corruption, poverty and general anarchy.

Powerful people and corporations are not stupid, they know this will be the outcome and are deliberately trying to bring it about.

"why do they want this?" Simple, system crashes necessitates the introduction of a police state and cancellation of any vestige of democratic process. The party in charge when that happens will be the party in charge for decades after, which is why Corbyn and his absurd party are so desperate to a) never limit migration and b) get in to power.

And to those that think Brexit will happen - never in a million years. Every bad thing that happens in the country over the next two years will be blamed on Brexit by the media and most people will unfortunately fall for the misrepresentation and be desperate to give away our sovereignty completely to the EU in two years time. There will be another vote or a pro-EU government will be voted in and that will be it. There will be a complete surrender to the forces at work in the EU.

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Mike Oxsaw 5:41 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
OK. How about "It's not a conspiracy to believe that a footballer with the ability to score goals from free kicks...sometimes takes free kicks"?

The Joker 5:38 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
The opening post is quite possibly the biggest load of old bollocks it's ever been my misfortune to read.

Have you recently suffered a head injury?

cholo 5:21 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
> It's not a conspiracy to believe that people with the power to pull strings sometimes...pull those strings



Sorry but that's way too vague and will give anyone an ocean of wriggle room.

Alex V 5:12 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
>>> It's not a conspiracy to believe that people with the power to pull strings sometimes...pull those strings.

That is used as a poor justification for an endless number of conspiracy theories from chemtrails to 9/11. It leads to a series of extrapolations that perpetuate the belief, such as 'if they did it, they'd hide the evidence' or 'those who deny the truth are sheeple/shills'. The absence of any evidence for the belief therefore becomes the justification for the belief - don't fall down the rabbit hole!

Alex V 5:12 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
>>> It's not a conspiracy to believe that people with the power to pull strings sometimes...pull those strings.

That is used as a poor justification for an endless number of conspiracy theories from chemtrails to 9/11. It leads to a series of extrapolations that perpetuate the belief, such as 'if they did it, they'd hide the evidence' or 'those who deny the truth are sheeple/shills'. The absence of any evidence for the belief therefore becomes the justification for the belief - don't fall down the rabbit hole!

Mike Oxsaw 4:42 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Alex V 4:27 Sat Oct 22

It's not a conspiracy to believe that people with the power to pull strings sometimes...pull those strings.

IF they do though, they can generally do so in such a manner that there is absolutely no trail remaining that leads from effect (what the wanted to archive) to cause (them setting it all up).

That's NOT the same as putting an absolute figure on the number of times it happens, or that it actually happens at all. It's just admitting that the possibility is there, but the probability cannot be determined. If that sounds a bit too scientific in approach, so be it.

When people start insisting that two plus two equals five and everything you know, understand and have experienced state that two plus two equals, and has always equalled, four, the worst thing to do would be to not question their assertion and then change your mind and beliefs to match theirs.

Naturally it does mean that people have to put in a bit of effort and a bit of thought to filter out the bollocks, but you can still do that and find time to vote in the Great British Bake Off.

Alex V 4:27 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Oh it's another absurd conspiracy theory.

Mike Oxsaw 4:24 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
grasshopper 2:13 Sat Oct 22

Like all others, but that was achieved through evolutionary means, over generations, not via the click of a mouse and at a rate so fast even those born this century can clearly see the changes.

grasshopper 2:13 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Brits have always been a mongrel race

ray winstone 2:06 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
RM10 12:41 Sat Oct 22

No one has bit yet, tick tock....

Mike Oxsaw 1:39 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
The only - and I mean ONLY - thing that is holding Malaysia & Indonesia back from dominating their whole region is, as you've probably guessed, their imported religious fervour.

Having spent extended periods of time working in both, it's obvious that they have a vast wealth of suppressed & pent-up talent and ability that, if unleashed would be of great benefit to the whole planet, and, by default, humanity - Indonesia particularly so.

These were former European colonies and, if you wish to spin it so, still Arabic colonies as it is an Arabic culture dominating all significant walks of what is a South-East Asian life. The religion is a side issue though in this particular thread.

Many areas of the world have "thrown off the yoke of colonialism". Those that kept, in general, the "colonial ways" have gone on to contribute to the world in general.

Those who took full advantage of their ways and culture being "respected" have not. They, as nations have, or are failing (their people) and it is from many such nations migrants flee in search of a better, personal, life.

Still, as I've already mentioned, who are we to tell people how to live, even if it is for their own good? Our role is to have our leaders tell us what is for our own good, even to we feel otherwise, and just put up with it.

ohgodno 1:18 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Willtell 12:33 Sat Oct 22

Fucking right mate. Same goes for the Jews and the Germans. When the Germans had them all concentrated in camps they had literally a 2-3 minute journey to work. Now some of the cunts have a 2-3 hour commute.

Mike Oxsaw 12:49 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
BRANDED 12:28 Sat Oct 22

You left out Canada, South Africa and the USA from your list, Branded. Immigration from those countries is generally in - and limited to - highly skilled people who benefit the country over and above the bank account of a few selfish, shady offshore registered UK companies.

In virtually every other former colony, the "old ways" have returned, albeit amongst the crumbling civil engineering and infrastructure left behind by the colonists.

That "old way" is inevitably the strong-arm, survival of the fittest, rule of the jungle, existence, no matter how you really want to spin it as otherwise.

It is THAT many seek to escape from because they can never (hope to) join the ranks of even the relatively wealthy elite within their own nation.

But WE cannot, even with incontrovertible evidence from a comprehensive root-cause analysis, go in and fix the problem because that is "interfering" in another nation's - a sovereign state's affairs. We have rules in this civilised part of the world that we inhabit, and, by god, we'll live by them even if nobody else does.

So those elected into power simply pussyfoot around the problem, and, being as opportunistic as the rest of humanity, seek to profit from the situation while they can.

And the world turns...

J.Riddle 12:44 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
We've become a mongrel race.

Only upside is there will be someone to wipe your arse when you arrive at your nursing home, assuming they don't torture you first.

i-Ron 12:42 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
FEARMONGERING CONSPIRACIES

RM10 12:41 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Infidel- Blair followed what Thatcher started, everything that's wrong in this country was introduced in the thatcher major years absolutely destroyed the fabric of our British society.

Hammer and Pickle 12:39 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
The USA isn't doing all that bad.

Hasans Fish Bar RIP 12:37 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
That's an interesting point. I wonder how many (apart from the few mentioned) have prospered since independence from Britain, or regret it.

Willtell 12:33 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Yes BRANDED. Like those countries that were all better off under British rule which I might add, amounted to just a few hundred privately employed troops for most of the time.

Is there an African country that is lead by Africans that offers its citizens a decent standard of living?

The only Asian countries that do are those where UK or America left its footprint. Don't mock our history...

BRANDED 12:28 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Oxsaw

Like India? Or Singapore? Or Hong Kong? Or Australia?

BRANDED 12:26 Sat Oct 22
Re: Immigration, the ruling elite and the mainstream media
Sven. I probably would yes. Bearing in mind the number of illegal immigrant cunts in those countries.

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